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Or, in reference to it’s previous name, the Hancock…
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The Hancock Museum is near Haymarket Metro station in Newcastle. It’s been a Newcastle institution for years. I visited regularly as a child (mostly, I think, because every time I went, my parents would buy me a small plastic dinosaur to add to my collection), and I remember all sorts of things that they had, with stuffed animals, fossilised trees, absolutely ginormous crabs and a selection of other stuff.
Over the years, the building got a bit, well, scruffy-looking, as did many of the displays. Some of the displays tried to be hip, modern and up-to-date — stuff on pollution, for instance, — but generally ended up telling you little you didn’t already know and feeling like you personally were being held responsible for the whole thing.
It closed on the 23rd April 2006, for a great deal of refurbishment, after merging with Newcastle University’s Hatton Gallery to form the Great North Museum. This caused me some concern — not the refurbishment, which was clearly necessary, but the name change.
The Great North Museum tells you it’s a museum, and it’s in the North, but beyond that it sounds rather smug and self-congratulatory. It also doesn’t have any character or soul to the name. The Hancock Museum was named after the local brothers John and Albany Hancock who collected some of the contents. The name had a definite local link, and it told you something of the history of the museum. This character has been wiped out in the name of corporate rebranding. And it’s entirely wrong.
The Museum was then closed for three years, re-opening on 23rd May 2009. And because myself and the GLW had been quite fond of it, we wanted to go back and see what we believed would be the new, improved museum.
There was new, certainly, but I’m not entirely convinced on improved. Well, that’s probably being unfair. It’s better than it was, but I’m not convinced that the level of improvements seen should really have required three bloody years to complete.
Firstly, there are some things missing which used to be there.
They used to have a bee hive inside one of the windows, so you could see the bees going about their business as you wandered up or down that particular staircase. This was great for watching with the kiddies, and I think it’s a great shame that this is no longer there. A kids ‘play area’ may well be ideal for parents to sit down and have a few minutes rest, but if I wanted them to go to the park, I’d take them to the park. I want them to go to the Museum where they can learn things, get inspired by nature and so on.
There used to be a ‘night time’ display with stuffed animals: badger, fox, and various other small animals which was very much in the dark and you had to look at it carefully, allow your eyes to adjust and then gradually try and spot all the animals. There’s no sign of this, either.
They also used to have a pirhana in a tank, which was well worth looking at because you could see it had teeth. You could easily imagine that biting a big hole out of you if given the chance: you could certainly imagine a river full of them stripping a large animal down to the bone quite quickly. Only there’s no sign of that either. Presumably with the museum having been closed for three years, there haven’t been enough small children dangling their arms in the water to keep it fed…
But they’ve still got the big Japanese Crab. No, really, it’s a big Japanese crab, and well worth a look. This is one of the things they’ve done right: previously it was stuck up high on the wall and easy to miss unless you were specifically looking for it; now it’s much more visible.
But this is also part of the problem. Large parts of the old Hancock museum still had a Victorian museum/collection feel, with lots of boxes and cases of stuffed and mounted animals of various sizes on the walls. One the one hand, it’s not what museums tend to be about today; on the other it added a certain character to the museum. I can understand that they wanted to reduce the amount of this, but I can’t help but feel they’ve reduced it too much.
…but back to the “Living Planet” exhibition which contains a mixture of these stuffed animals and a series of models. The Great White shark is a model; I presume the lion is stuffed. This for two reasons; firstly it’s in a case, and secondly the mane is rather mangy-looking, and has definitely seen better days. Possibly could have done with being removed from the display…
And then you’ve got the dinosaur; they’ve got a model of a T-rex skeleton. Look, by all means have a picture of a dinosaur — indeed they have a video — but if you don’t have your own fossil bones, then why bother with a model skeleton? The kids would rather a model of a living T. Rex, and fake bones don’t mean much to anyone… if you don’t have T. Rex fossils, display the fossils of something else…
Although I will make an exception for the replica Rosetta stone in the Egyptian Gallery, as this is a unique object, which also illustrates how we learned about the demotic script and hieroglyphics. The Egyptian Gallery is one of the things the Hancock Museum still does well (look, I’m not going to call it the Great North Museum, okay? It’s a shit name!).
Of course, what boils my piss* is the fact that I wasn’t one of the people they surveyed in the opening day or so:
One hundred percent of visitors to the Great North Museum: Hancock agree that it deserves to be called ‘Great’ according to an exit poll conducted at the museum following its launch last week. Putting ‘Great’ into Museums
…good job they didn’t survey me then, isn’t it? I would have rather scuppered their headline…
*It doesn’t really boil my piss, but it’s such a good phrase (meaning “very much annoys me”) that I wanted to use it somewhere.
Where was I? Oh yes: the Roman display is very good too, particularly the focus on Hadrian’s wall, and the model showing not only the wall but people and different points at various lengths along it. The Explore area is well done too, as is the Ice Age to Iron Age display.
Another down side was that it seemed quite a few of the displays weren’t actually on display at all. There was a Wolf Fish aquarium and something else where the animals were not actually present because they were in quarantine. On one hand, this is fair enough: animals need to be quarantined appropriately. On the other, couldn’t they have timed this a bit better — surely they knew when the museum was due to be open?
Similarly, at least one of the ‘interactive’ displays — something where you are supposed to be able to compare footprints — wasn’t working, as it seemed to be missing paper or something. If you work for a museum, read this next bit, as it is important. There is absolutely no point having an interactive display if it doesn’t work. You’d be better off with some form of static display if you can’t actually make your interactive display work, as a broken interactive display looks crap. Really, seriously, if you can’t have it working, don’t even bother with it. Okay?
We didn’t visit the planetarium, which is chargeable and requires an extra ticket. This wasn’t because we didn’t have time, but we were rushing off to try and grab some lunch before rushing further off to see someone at a wedding, before rushing home to watch the FA Cup final. However, the planetarium would definitely be on our list for a subsequent visit.
On the whole, they’ve done a good job with the refurbishment to be honest. I just think that they’ve tried to be too modern, and they’ve stripped some of the character, some of the soul, out of the museum. I also don’t think the changes that I’ve seen really justify the museum having been closed for three years.
For those of you who saw my initial reaction on Twitter, my views won’t be too much of a surprise:
Not impressed with the #GreatNorthMuseum It’s like the #Hancock museum always was, only seemingly tidier and – crucially- with less stuff.@ThePickards
…but it’s also important to point out that I would have enjoyed it more if I hadn’t gone with small children, as then I would have actually been able to properly look at various exhibits and read the information associated with the displays instead of generally trying to have to herd the children, prevent them climbing on things, try and get them to follow us around the museum and so on. But then again, as they get older (particularly when they will actually read things themselves, instead of just wanting to climb about), I think it will be somewhere we would enjoy more.
So while I’d certainly not call it a Great North Museum, I might settle for calling it a Quite Good North Museum, or a “slightly improved in some respects but at a loss of some of the character Hancock Museum”, or even ideally just “the Hancock Museum”.
Gavin Lloyd Payne says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 7:33 am
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mark says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
i’m still telling my two it’s the hancock
Jon says:
June 4th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
its far easier to say than to do.
JackP says:
June 4th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
It’s easier to ‘not post a comment’ than ‘post a comment’.
Instead of spouting semi-cryptic bollocks, why not just say what you mean?
I’m presuming you are meaning “you are being critical, and you have no right to be, because you didn’t do it”.
In that case, I hope you are fully supporting the banks that lost all the public money; and all those MPs who spent all the public money on dubious expenses — because I didn’t see you doing better with the money…
Unless of course you are suggesting that you will provide me with a museum, an equivalent budget, an equivalent staff, an equivalent amount of time, and an equivalent collection to see what I can come up with. If that is the case, I’ll take up your challenge.
Just because I (or you, or whoever) didn’t have the chance to do something / wasn’t asked / didn’t want to doesn’t mean that we don’t have a right to an opinion about it…
David says:
June 17th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Of course you can be critical but your criticism is lazy.
You seem only interested in the name and are focussed on displays removed rather than the new. Lazy.
You want it to be a fusty victorian museum (that only attracted 60000 a year) Lazy
Attracting 100 000 in the first few weeks engages and inspires more of the population and is therefore value for money. Again, lazy.
You admit you didn’t look properly because of your children – but still feel you can criticise – arrogant.
You avoid the subject by talking about bankers – lazy
You think you have the ability, energy and dedication to do better. arrogant
JackP says:
June 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
@David,
not entirely sure why I’m bothering to reply to someone who presumes anyone who disagrees with them is automatically lazy and arrogant, but here goes:
I “seem only interested in the name”. Well, I certainly am interested in the name. I think the old name had more character. But while I’ll still probably refer to it as the Hancock, the name wouldn’t put me off going…
And that character is what I wanted the museum to keep. I admit, it needed to modernise, but I didn’t think it necessary to remove all of the old style stuff. Surely some compromise between more modern displays and traditional ones could have been reached? You seem to have missed this point. Your criticism of this post therefore – lazy.
Your comment that it attracted more in 3 months than the previous one did in a year rather ignores the fact that it has been closed for three years, so the re-opening was bound to attract an interest. If the old-style Hancock had been re-opened, scrubbed up a bit, would that not have attracted more visitors than before? It might have, but it might not have. We don’t know. Your argument: weak and unsupported.
I didn’t get to look as well as I would have liked because of the kids. That doesn’t mean I didn’t see, or take in, somie parts. I am entitled therefore to comment on what I noticed. I notice, for example, that you haven’t read all of the pages on my site: by your own argument you should therefore have no right to comment. Your argument: hypocritical and lazy.
“I avoid the argument”. Which one? Jon’s comment? Possibly because it was so short I didn’t know for sure what he was suggesting. I tried to expand on it, but unfortunately he never came back to explain what he’d meant, so I had nothing to discuss with him. I even expanded on my gripe with Jon’s comment “Just because I (or you, or whoever) didn’t have the chance to do something / wasn’t asked / didn’t want to doesn’t mean that we don’t have a right to an opinion about it…” a great deal more than he bothered to.
Your point therefore is, well, not a point whatsoever. Take your pick from lazy, weak, or just unable to actually justify it…
“You think you have the ability, energy and dedication to do better”. Nope. I didn’t say that. I said I’d have a go. Jon seemed – to me – to be implying that I was critical because I couldn’t do better myself. My point therefore was that I’d not been given a chance to do better: and unless I was to be given that opportunity and turn it down, surely I’m entitled to an opinion?
Your ability to read and comprehend what has been written, therefore: weak.
Your ability to post anonymously on other people’s sites without being prepared to leave an email address, or reference to your personal site also rather suggests to me that you are someone who feels quite comfortable dishing it out, but isn’t willing to have any of it come back. If you’re not prepared to identify yourself, then you’re not particularly brave are you, sniping at someone else — with admittedly poor arguments, mind — without being prepared to stand behind your own comments…
But thanks for stopping by.
@David, Jon: oh, and of course there’s the fact that you appear to be sock-puppeting: using multiple fake identities to make it seem like more people agree with you. At least, that seems to be the logical reason for multiple identities posting from the same computer — IP address 84.92.13.34, ISP PlusNet. Now do learn how to play nice…
David says:
June 17th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
The name Hancock doesn’t have character it just has resonance with those who have known the museum. Character is also not some that is just old and in a perilous state – it is the distinctive nature of something, the quality of being individual interesting and unique.
Is the new museum not that?
The Hancock brothers didn’t set out to do something comfortable and unchallenging – they were scientists and pioneers and modern. The museum attempts to uphold that principle. Its not scared of new.
I agree – only time will tell if the initial interest is sustained but the initial response and visitor numbers would not have been achieved if they kept the old name and some of the outdated displays. Also, I don’t suppose visitors wanted to go back and see what was there before (although you clearly do).
And when does a moth eaten Lion loose its character and become not fit for display.
JackP says:
June 17th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
I disagree (but you probably expected that); I think the Hancock name is one that adds some relevance to local history to the museum, which I think was worth keeping. I also feel a modern, revitalised Hancock would have done the job equally well.
However, there’s a risk in getting bogged down with the name; I’d presume we’re both in agreement that the content is more important.
The reference to the mangy looking lion was simply a suggestion that if they were going to remove some of the older things from the display, there were things that I think should have been removed ahead of some of the things which were…
There are indeed a lot of things I liked about the museum (the Roman display in particular; also the ‘trip back in time’ section) – I just think that it could have been better still (non-working ‘interactive’ displays are a complete waste of space after all). And they have a section where they include some of the museum collections and the history of the museum – this is good, but would have also provided an ideal space for some of the other displays that don’t quite fit the ‘modern’ view.
I’m not against change or modernisation: it’s just that I have a deep personal affection for the Hancock/GNM and want it to be right. I think if it hadn’t been closed for so long, I probably wouldn’t have expected so much, but in three years, I do think it could have been done better.
David says:
June 17th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Well I’m very sad you are so disappointed given the project took more than 6 years to produce.
It is also sad that you don’t feel it provides a much enhanced addition to the cultural heritage of Newcastle and Gateshead.
and so we will have to disagree.
JackP says:
June 17th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
…I’m not “so” disappointed: I’m slightly disappointed in some aspects. Other aspects I think are extremely well done. I’d still recommend people go there. After all, you can’t expect all of it to please everyone
And I think it is a great part of the cultural heritage of Newcastle/Gateshead but I would argue that it was this back in the Hancock days also: I don’t see that as something new.
David [not the same David as before - JP] says:
July 20th, 2009 at 9:51 am
I think Jack was too lenient.
Many other aspects of the museum were poor. Did no-one feel the geology displays were slapdash? The piles of contextless gems and stones reminded me more of tynemouth market than of an educational display in a “Great” museum.
There were other off putting examples of how this supposedly modern (and don’t be fooled into think that modern is better) style museum is jarring and poorly thought out.
For example, was it not a strange experience for everyone else to be reading about the wildlife of northumberland, whilst at the same time having the back-end of a samurai in front of you?
What about birds with no labels to identifty them with?
The overly bright lighting which meant you couldn’t see into a lot of the cases at all?
The open nature of the museum which led to two teeth being taken from the t-rex model already?
Also the Roman alters crammed into one corner with little explanation and no thought of holding up each piece individually?
I’m still struggling to figure out how they could extend a building, yet still make it feel significantly smaller than before the refit.
It would be a good place to go as a 10 year old, but 10 year olds would learn just as much about natural history by riding one of the those whale-shaped wooden rockers (with springs underneath) at a park.
David - a different one. says:
July 20th, 2009 at 9:54 am
I’ve just realised the idiocy of just naming myself David. I’m obviously a different david to the one nit-picking the article earlier.
Jeannie says:
August 31st, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I’m surprised there are no comments from women. Unless one or more of the people posting is / are female?
JackP says:
August 31st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I think all the people commenting on this particular post are male, but overall (and not counting comments from myself), 5 of the last 10 comments on this site were from people of the female persuasion…
Alan Myers says:
October 14th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
A plaque has recently been erected by the city council to the Hancocks.
The ‘Great North’ tourism formulation has been around for years and is meant to distinguish the region – hence the Great North Run etc. It isn’t just bragging over the word ‘great’. The new museum contains artefacts from several museums unconnected with the Hancocks, so a new name was perhaps appropriate.
I loved the Hancock of my youth, the glass cases and racks of wooden drawers full of amazing butterflies. Its later appearance seemed dingy and understocked to me. I always felt sorry for that lonely piranha.
I should remark that dinosaur bones are very rare and all the T-Rex ones you see in the museums of the world are made of plaster, including the Natural History Museum specimen in London. And everyone wants to see T-Rex.
Getting all those smaller museums into one place is an excellent idea anyway.
The museum I visited in my youth decades ago suited me well. I loved the objects in cases and the butterflies – wonderful. The later
I visited the Hancock
Alan Myers says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
PS
I forgot to mention that the museum (full name Great North Museum:Hancock) stands on the Great North Road. The plaque is on the Hancock house opposite the museum at 20 Great North Road.
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